Colby Martin in Conversation With Scott Erickson

For centuries, debates over LGBTQ inclusion have circled the same question: "But what about what the Bible says?"

In But What About… (St. Martin’s Essentials), pastor and author Colby Martin — whose bestselling book UnClobber reframed our understanding of the “clobber passages” — continues the work of inclusion by answering the next round of questions. With pastoral honesty and theological depth, he explores what Scripture says (and doesn’t say) about topics like marriage, gender, and sexuality, uncovering how centuries of interpretation have often missed the text’s cultural and linguistic heart.

Written with Martin’s signature blend of accessibility, humor, and scholarship, But What About… helps readers articulate a faithful, informed case for inclusion. By seeking to compassionately understand the non-affirming position, Martin offers a framework for reading the Bible that’s both intellectually honest and spiritually liberating — one that sees LGBTQ inclusion not as a departure from Christianity, but as its truest expression.

Martin will be joined in conversation by artist Scott Erickson, author of In the Low: Honest Prayers for Dark Seasons.